20-foot auxiliary masthead cruising sloop
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Designed by Capt. Andrew Davidhazy in 1966 and built by Howie Renner of Howie Craft Plastics in Lake Oswego, near Portland, Oregon for many years.
The brief history is that Capt. Davidhazy traded the design of the Heritage for a hull made by Howie.
Capt. Davidhazy passed away in 2003 and you can read
Howie Renner passed away in 2011 and and you can
If the small images have a blue border around them you can click on them and see an enlarged version.
Above are 3 documents from Howie Renner to Gary Nece. One in 1999 with info about Hawaii crossings and hull numbers, one brief note in 2000 and another a price list dating back to 1982
On the left and right are photographs of Howie Renner sailing on Puget Sound with Capt. Andrew Davidhazy at the helm. In the middle two photographs the Capt. is on his own and sailing in calmer winds and seas!
Three photographs of Heritage #1 with Howie and Donna Renner on board - and Capt. Andy entertaining on the Adria at right
Two Heritages at Shilshole in early 1970s. #3 (of Capt. Davidhazy) and #1 (2 portholes - Howie's Renner's?)
and #3s dinghy also designed by the Capt. with two of his grandchildren on board
to see a larger version.
apologies from the "webmaster" ... I have neglected updating this site and now find myself quite a bit behind updating old information as well as new news.
Michelle Anderson informed us on May15 that Blackfin (#12) is officially sailing on Puget Sound again. Yay!!
To see photographs of the rebuilding of Blackfin check Michelle's album at
And the Adria (#5) is about to head out onto lake Ontario this week.
has changed hands once more. She was recently acquired by Michelle
Hi Andrew.
I acquired Heritage #9 from Robert Hale in early June of this year.
Robert applied for a vessel title to the boat in November of 1989 (when purchasing the boat, I assume from Grant McConchie). The HIN on this title was WA 26973C1973, but was changed to WNZ38301F222 to comply with standard HIN identification when I titled the vessel. The boat remained in Robert's workshop for many years (10, 15&more?). He had renamed the vessel Ms. Willie (after his wife Willita...formerly named Bunyip?). The home port was Olympia, WA. He was working on upgrading and refitting the vessel, however health issues lead to the sale of the boat.
The vessel is now sitting on its trailer, at my home in Port Townsend, WA, where I will continue its refit/restoration.
Any advice from Heritage 20 owners would be greatly appreciated as I need to craft an engine bed, install the engine, upgrade and finish electrical work and shop for a set of sails.
Fair winds,
Kim
email: [email protected]
Andr!s Fxz
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and see more here -
in addition he made several Youtube videos of the renovation project and you can get to these starting with this latest one:
arly this year and am in the process of refitting her and getting her up to speed. Would love to get involved and keep the site going!
Sincerely, Staton Apple
Andr!s Fxz updated his progress on his renovation of the Sexy II previously owned by Toth Lajos.
On August 10, 2020 Adria 20 after deck was removed and after cabin interior painting
On September 15, 2020 I'm done with the Adria 20 interiors. It was hard and lengthy work, but it was worth it. My goal was a real classic interior and to replace the old dark "coffin" feeling with a bit of white and light.
Best wishes on the restoration project! Let us know about progress and relaunch date!! Andy
to check out the difference with the Adria design, if any, look below
He says: "On August 17, 2018 the following message was received from Nicholas Ames: I am the new owner of Ellie, and I couldn't be happier! We've gone about 60nm in the past month and are spending our time mainly in West Seattle, Elliot Bay and out around Blake Island and Bainbridge. She sails like a dream and is a very easy to handle solo.
Ray and Mary were wonderful stewards and took very good care of her. She's aesthetically beautiful, and always gets comments, and Ray also made some nice functional updates to the deck gear and cockpit."
So it looks like there are several Heritages on or near Puget Sound and hopefully some of us can get together on or before Spring of 2019!
Photo of Bunyip found by Grant McConchie.
Looky here! A photo of #9 per this letter: Hi Andy, Long time since I contacted you I know, sorry about that. here is an old shot i just came across, #9 in Puget sound around 1982-3. Dark green hull. We bought the tender that is seen in your photo's from Howard Renner (we lived 1 mile from him). This hull has not been heard of since I sold it. No idea where it went. Grant McConchie.
Wonder what became of this boat ...
Latest news is that she is currently for sale.
. Cheers, Christy PS: Would the owners of Drummer please step forward!
Owner: Adam S. and spouse located near Seattle, WA
He said: Good to hear back from you. We really have enjoyed the boat and have loved sailing it in the summer. We dont use it for about 9 months a year and hope to store it inside on a trailer. Unfortunately, I wont be in the NY area in the foreseeable future. Do you think you could measure your boat on the trailer? Ive attached the measurement sheet. On another subject, are you aware of any documentation on how to best lower the mast by way of the tabernacle?
Adam - Andy suggested he look up this website! :)
Hi again Andy!
We have found the Heritage sight and it has been a good resource, thank you. I would be happy to share photos if you think that is of interest: the interior of the boat was kept up as well as the exterior. Drummer has a 1MD Volvo engine that and bilge that could be cleaned up better.
Adam
My father owned Heritage One starting around 1969. At least I think do. While young I learned a great deal then on that boat. Docked along the Columbia where we sailed, I remember much. He had it until the Nineties.
But I thought the pictures you posted are great. Plus the history. I guess I'm just wondering, this is the same boat?
yours, Peter Sheldon
to which I replied: Peter, Andy,
Peter, you have it right. Howie Renner sold Heritage One in 69 to your Dad but bought the boat back and took her with him to Florida when he retired. I did not know who he sold her to in the beginning but your bit of info fills the gap. At least I think that is the history.
Might that be your Dad and Mom on Heritage One on Puget Sound? Probably not I would think as it seems that photo was taken closer to the time that she was built. But maybe?
I thought mine was number 5 by the number on the sail but have my doubts now as my Dad was sailing a black hull one with the 5 on its sail ... and Howie did not number the hulls until a bit later .... but at least no other #5 has surfaced to date!
cheers,
Andy II
Recent photographs of Sexy II under sail on Lake Balaton in Hungary in July 2018 - Note that there is an owners site on Facebook simply called Heritage Owners for those of you connected to Facebook.
Dear Heritage friends,
Hopefully this note finds you all well and in good spirits. Also hope you all had an enjoyable Summer sailing season.
I an earlier message I raised the possibility of again getting together in the Seattle area where several of you have or had Heritage sailboats by Howie Renner and Capt. Davidhazy.
Ray and Mary Waldmann, who sail Ellie on Lake Washington and who live in Bellevue generously offered to host the group for an afternoon of wine and cheese but more importantly for getting acquainted, conversation, reminiscences and tall tales of various kinds. Hopefully some of you will be able to attend.
Ray says:
"Andy, 3 on Sunday the 29th of Oct. works just fine for us. We look forward to seeing you again, meeting other owners, and even taking the group over to the Yacht Club next door where Ellie now lives for a little show and tell .
We always appreciate a few appetizers or small plates to share, but nothing fancy. We can provide wine, beer, soft drinks and hard stuff. We can also provide directions to find us for those not familiar with Bellevue.
We're easy to find, just off Lake Washington Blvd, in Bellevue, four blocks from Bellevue Way, and just above the Bellevue Marina.
Ray"
Address will be provided if you send me an email or call me at number given below. Spouses and friends welcome of course.
My wife Sue and I will be attending. For exact location and Ray's contact information please touch base with me at 585-747-5422 or email at [email protected]
Regards,
Andy
Andrew Davidhazy
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Andy Davidhazy III says: This is the first of the Heritage sailboats built by Howie Renner in Lake Oswego, in the outskirts of Portland, OR. Designed by my grandfather, Capt. Andrew Davidhazy in 1965 and built in 1966. I acquired this example directly from the Renner estate last year but since I live in Austin, Texas, the opportunity to sail her is rather limited and I am thinking that she would be best under the care of someone who will enjoy this fine little ship. Several have sailed in the Caribbean, the West coast and even over to Hawaii and back.
Christy Haase says: The tarps are off, engine on, and despite the hassle of getting all the rights parts in the right place, and the exciting yet nerve wracking cruise coordinating, I'm very ready for this little ship to return to water! It's like having a dear old friend back
Next weekend (the 15th) we'll head to San Juan providing she's all ship shape.
Aeolus anchored at Spencer Spit on Lopez Island, with her unglamorous anchor bucket on the bow. How do other Heritages store anchors?? (This works but it's not ideal of course). Ideas?
This update from Lajos on June 7: The plan is clearing. Kroknai, "the" mechanic will disconnect the engine (on Saturday we couldn't even get close to it :/ ). In the meantime Csaba and P}ter (they are the harbormasters at R}vfxlap) will install some outboard mounting, P}ter cleans the surface with the power cleaner (I'm a bit worried about the teak deck), I'll buy a 5HP Yamaha long shaft, and some life jackets. On Saturday, we'll throw the matresses away, Anita will vac and clean the interiors, just after my brother-in-law and myself took the BMW out. Hopefully the mast will hold it, we'd like to use the boom as a crane. We need to dump the water underneath the engine. (Well, that's another thing I'm worried about.) The new license will be ready on Friday. Hopefully. On Sunday, sails on and see, how is she like.
After the season (about in October) we'll move her to a workshop. Hull, cabin top, sealing, paint. Wooden parts, furniture. Wiring. And engine. I'm in a huge dilemma here:
First of all, she already has this cute BMW Marine D7, which after repairing the broken cylinder head may be perfect. Or may be not. Has been discontinued about 40 years ago, nearest fan group in Canada.
Yanmar 1GM10: existing product, same size, reliable and perfect. I've seen that many of the Heritages has Yanmar (Kroknai said that it is impossible to fit, though :) )
Outboard: well, I'm gonna have an outboard very soon. Temporarily. Cheap, easy to mount/dismount. Cons: ugly, no place for the ladder
Inboard electric: I'm wondering, why are those so expensive? The cheapest variation I've found so far is about $4500. Without batteries. A perfect choice, though. Combustions are only allowed on Balaton within 300m range of the marinas, electrics are okay everywhere.
(and a couple of hours later he said) All right, I've got the Yamaha. Cs}pli Viktria answered my message and said yes, she is daughter of Dr. Cs}pli and she participated in building the boat.
- All right, finally the outboard and the sails are on, so we could take her for a ride (R}vfxlap-Badacsony, and back). First experiences: what I really liked is that she keeps moving even in the lightest breeze. With the outboard, the rudder has no effect when reversing. :/ 5.5 knots top speed, and in 15 knots wind we neded to roll the foresail back a little bit. :) One really strange thing, steering requires Force. A lot. I'm wondering if that's because of the full keel and normal? (First two on left: inboard removed and on the hard, first round around the marina with the outboard) The next four are from first real sail on the Balaton. Looks like she is performing admirably!
From: Mark Raine <[email protected]> Date: Tue, May 30, 2017 8:13 am
Nutty 2311 Nutty 2313 Nutty 2314 Nutty 2316
Frustration thy name is sailboat! (There is no question why boats are referred to as "she" heehee. There, I said it so y'all don't have to) ;-)
Mid June Aeolus is scheduled to become seaborne again, fingers crossed she'll be all good to go! Ahoy and hope fellow Heritage owners are getting ready for a fun sailing season too!
Addendum from Andrew Davidhazy re: Adria on Lake Ontario:
Adria is scheduled to go in the water tomorrow, May 28, if all goes well. Also to have her mast raised (stepped? ... it seems that the right word is raised as it is hinged at base, no?). The water in Lake Ontario is exceptionally high and we may have trouble with the dock. We shall see.
January 07, 2017 update from Kenny Hopkins and Minka #17 in Florida. Good news regarding Minka. Some good luck has come my way and I will not be selling Minka. Also, after a lot of research I have built a single handed mast raising system for her. Mast is up and sails are hanked on. I have no genoa and was curious where you found your red and white one? I would like to find a used one in decent shape. I also have copies of Howies blue prints/ line drawings that lists all sail and build information.
All of the work I have been doing to her should be coming to an end in the next month or so. Then her/my 1st shakedown cruise. I have promised my grandsons that I will trailer her up to the Chesapeake bay in late May early June for a month, then on to North Haven, Maine to sail with friends on the island.
I'll try and get pics and video of her first trailer launch in 30 years...so stay tuned. How is progress on Gabriella coming?
Best,
Kenny Hopkins
to which Andy Davidhazy replied: Hi Kenny, Good to hear these news! sounds like you have an exciting adventure ahead this year. I would be interested in particular to see what kind of system you set up to raise the mast.
The red striped "drifter" (light weight oversized genoa) came with the boat from Steve Cassella. I don't know where he got it from. The specs for it were not with the Heritage drawings as far as I know. They did show a spinaker though if I recall. Not sure if there were specs for it.
Work on the Adria is at a standstill. I think we will not do any updates on her. Our sailing season last year was pretty good. Hopefully things will be similar this year. I'd like to be on a calmer body of water but not convinced to move to a "finger" lake ... although a few are sizeable. We are looking forward to stories and photos of you progress. You may have read that Christy is moving to San Juan island in the PNW. And taking her Aeolus with her and looking forward to sailing there.
Heritage One is in Austin in storage. My older son has great plans for her but one problem is the lack of expertise to refurbish/operate the inboard Westerbeke engine. No experienced sailboat diesel engine mechanics in Austin! So we will see what "develops" with her. Well, congratulations and fair winds be with you!!
Andy
The periodic get together of Heritage owners and friends in Seattle this year was a bit sparse but we had a fun time nevertheless going out to dinner at Ivar's Salmon House on Lake Union. Christy Haase and Sue and Andy Davidhazy as seen in attached photo. Various eventualities precluded the attendance of other locals but we will try for another occasion possibly sometime in March.
The thru hull fittings on Aeolus have odd calcium type deposits, not marine growth as previously thought. One was completely covering the cockpit drain beneath, the boatyard said they've never seen anything quite like it. Obviously caused lots of drainage issues. They joked it was a special unique little problem for a special unique little boat. They removed it before I could get a picture, but here are a couple with remnants. Has anyone else had this issue? Especially those moored in salt water? She has a few zincs that should be helping. Thanks!
If you have words of wisdom to share you can contact Christy Haase by email at:
I noticed that our windows (portholes) are leaking and after a heavy rain the drips add to a puddle and then water builds up in bilge - not enough to sink the boat but need to use bilge pump. Besides this promotes humidity in the cabin. I could use advise on how to dismantle the wood window frames and seal the windows so they don't leak. I noticed that Heritage One has aluminum framed windows. I suppose that is one solution but I've seen that most Heritages have wooden (teak?) frames. If you have suggestions I'd appreciate hearing from you. Andy at [email protected]
On the matter of seat hatch covers leaking ... I found that a possible solution is to run a cord around the perimeter of the hatch next to the flat rubberized seal and also run it next to the hinges. So far this eems to help in preventing water from dripping into the hatch. I may glue the cord in place. More details and photosto follow.
"Many people are alive but don't touch the miracle of being alive". Thich Nhat Hanh - For me, sailing is being alive. It demands attention to the present moment, and how that moment shifts into new circumstances, new moments; changes in wind speed, two currents meeting with a choppy riptide, land formations morphing before your eyes as perspective alters on a tack. Abundant sea life above and below right where you are, possibly moving towards the same quiet cove for an evening's rest. Sailing is one of the few activities that commands my full attention, my full presence, and creates a sense there's nothing else I should be doing in that moment. (Fortunately sanding lots of teak offers almost the same). Wishing for fair winds and following seas in the upcoming boating season!
Aeolus at dock in Fossil Bay, Sucia Island which is on the northern most San Juan Islands. It was saved in the 70's from becoming privately owned by a group of dedicated boaters. Now it's a state park and while crowded sometimes in the summer, in the off season it's magical. Honestly you don't want to leave.
May 4, 2016: Andrew, I have had my Heritage (HWC 10 8 73) since 1979. Since I was on the bottom of a two year waiting list that turned into a four year waiting list, Howie connected me with owner Dave Campbell who wanted to sell his boat still unfinished. I finally launched in 1984 here in Portland.
We trailered down to Florida in 1985 - 86, sailing around Florida and the Bahamas. In 1989 we bought a Sam Morse 22' Falmouth Cutter that we also trailered to Florida. The Heritage has not been sailed since. It is such a beautiful boat that I planned to putter with during retirement. However, now that I am retired I have too many boats for puttering purposes, and it should go to someone that not only loves the Heritage but would actually sail her. In following the typical age progression from sail to power, I would trade both boats for a 26' Nordic tug.
I saw that your son bought Howie's Heritage One. I was wondering if he also picked up a dinghy. Howie had two tucked under his back deck down in Ft. Myers. I used to visit Howie and Donna when I was in Florida and would occasionally take a dinghy for a row. They are so light and easy to row. I had forgotten that Capt. Andy designed them.
Please add me to your owners' list. I may not do much sailing anymore, but I still enjoy hearing about it. Gregg 1590 SW 197th Ave, Aloha, OR 97003 503 642 2084 Gregg and Leah McDonald email = [email protected]
On the Facebook Heritage Group site Christy Haase (Skipper/Owner of Aeolus) replied as follows: You probably don't remember but I spoke with you on the phone many years back, I saw Wild Tangent for sale in 48 Degrees North publication, thought it was the best little boat I'd ever seen. You kindly sent a packet of materials and I knew it was the boat for me. Just took many more years to finally get one! PS Wild Tangent, as I recall, is absolutely gorgeous. Gives me Heritage envy haha
Gregg added a few comments on May 7, 2016: Andrew, As to the boat name, I'm not math connected, but "tangent" seemed to apply to a boat sailing on the ocean. It later expanded to the phrase "off on a wild tangent" to pretty much describe my life at the time. Also, if I ever cruised anywhere to merit a book deal, I thought that would be an excellent title. I'll leave it to the next owner to write that book.
As to the total number of Heritages, 18 sticks in my mind. There was no number 13 hull, so I think #18 (or maybe #19) was the last hull number. I know Howie stopped doing unfinished boats at some point. He also wanted the mold destroyed so no more could be built. After he died, I did see the plug he used to build the hull and deck molds. They were in the bushes at his property in Oregon. When he sold his place in Oregon, the Pro basketball player that owns it now gave Howie and Donna a five year contract to use the house and property, which they did in summers. That was up this spring so I'm guessing everything ended up in the burn pile, and a new mansion will be going up.
I wouldn't discourage anyone from restoring a boat. If you love her, it's pleasure, not work, at least during the honeymoon. I may have been with Howie the last time he motored to the marina for seasonal takeout. The motor was running fine, but it has been sitting in his basement shop for a few years. If your son hasn't diagnosed the problem yet, it is probably lack of compression from dry cylinder walls or lack of good fuel. I have the same Westerbeke in my boat. Be sure to change out the water pump impeller. I learned the hard way.
Kudos to you for being the central communications point for the Heritage Group. I restarted the Falmouth Cutter Newsletter back when it involved a typewriter, a copier, and postage stamps. I'll leave it up to you as Editor to determine what is personal correspondence with you and what is of group interest.
On a personal note, can you tell me how Donna was doing? I have not seen her in over two years, and she was having mobility and memory problems then. I know she was saying she did not want to sell the Heritage because it reminded her of Howie. At the same she said she wanted it to go to Andy.
I don't post on Facebook, but I would like to respond to Christy's message. Yes, Christy, I remember you very well. I don't often receive phone messages from excited young women. After my answering machine would cut off, you dutifully called back and continued the conversation. I would have returned your phone call if you would have given a phone number. As it was, I had your address, and knowing how badly you wanted a Heritage, it was a pleasure to put together those pictures for you. The last I heard you had postponed your boat search for a trip to Italy, but Howie must have told me later that you had finally acquired your dream boat. I have never advertised my boat for sale, so the ad you saw in 48 North (OR registration numbers 882 JH) belonged to Curt Adams. I have only talked about selling my boat to two people, you and Capt. Andy, and that was through Howie.
I'll look through my old pictures and see what might be of interest to you or the group. Thanks for including me.
Gregg
Andy made a comment on the dinghy: Gregg, I did not get Howie's dinghy but did see an uncompleted one at his home that the broker gave away to a helper. I did however get the original dinghy that my Dad owned with the name of his boat still visible on its stern. Have had it out a couple of times but I don't have much need for one. It could use a bit of upkeep of trim and motor mount but otherwise still floats!!
As for Donna ... did not get to see her. The broker was kind of elusive about this. I saw a relative by marriage lady but she could not tell me much.
Having restored Ellie to adequate (but not perfect) condition, I looked for a new boating project. The result is a kit bashed version of a model Ellie, photos attached. The white hull version is what I started with, the others the final product. Ray
A brief exchange with Steve Cassella's wife about the group photo at Ray and Mary Waldmann's home last year resulted in the following: "I should send you a photo I took of him on Martha just before he set sail for Hawaii. Left clean shaven with short hair, returned with long hair and a full beard. Sadly, being presmartphone and pre digital, I don't have a photo of the hairy monster on his return."
This is the photo that was received. Intrepid adventurer by all appearances that Steve!
Anyone know where to find a hull identification number on the Heritages? I've been going by the number on the mainsail but then I found two photos with a #5 on their sail. One on a black hull and other a white one. Since I have the white one with a number #5 just below the eagle logo on its main sail (as you can see in my photographs of the Adria) this then leaves me in a quandary. The other #5 is close to the leach of the sail as you can see in the photograph to the right. If you know the answer I'd be glad to know it. Write to me at [email protected]
Kenny replied to this matter as follows: On Minka the numbers are on the starboard deck at the stern, sort of underneath the raised wooden rail if that makes any sense. If you cannot find them email me back and I will take a picture of mine for you. ... and Kenny did do just that. Sent a couple of photos shown below.
This number may or may not appear on every hull. For example, on the Adria there is no number that I could find. Maybe it has to do with the year that the boat was made and early hulls were not required to have a hull number.
Kenny followed this up with: I did a quick search and apparently prior to Nov. 1972 hull id numbers were not mandatory.
After 1972 a 12 digit number was used, so in my case HWC000170379 indicates Hull # 17 made in March of 1979. I also read that prior to 1972 some manufacturers used a placard of some type inside the vessel but was not mandatory. I guess one could keep an eye out for a placard of some sort inside.
and I will post here for everyone's benefit. I can make comments anonymous if you don't want to identified.
Even though Capt. Davidhazy and Howie produced a fantastic vessel, it did have a couple drawbacks. One was the "weather helm" which is the tendency of the boat to "head up" into the wind when sailing "on the wind". It causes you to place the tiller to windward thereby "stalling out" the rudder which in turn creates drag and slows the boat.
This is the result of too much sail area "aft" of the "combined sail area" of jib and mainsail.
Years ago I did the calculations for the Heritage; the first was the combined "center of effort" for the standard suit of sails; the second for the "center of lateral resistance" of the hull. These two "centers" need to occur at almost the same point in order for the vessel to be balanced. When they are in excess, either to far forward (or) too far aft, the boat will not balance correctly.
From memory, the quick fix for this was to shorten the boom to about the aft face of the cabin. The mainsail would need to have the "leech" cut back to accommodate the new configuration and you would need to sheet the boom from a new location on cabin top or install a traveler on the bridge deck at the companionway.
A follow-up comment went like this: It is always preferable to have a little weather helm. A little weather helm will send the boat into the wind if the tiller is left unattended; much better than lee helm which could result in an accidental jibe where the boom could smack somebody in the head. When you have too much weather helm the rudder is acting like a brake which slows the boat and is a strain on the rudder post and tiller connection.
You can reduce weather helm by letting out on the main sheet, reefing the main, and by moving weight aft. Flattening the main sail also helps. Flattening can be accomplished by tightening the downhaul (tightening the luff of the sail) and tightening the outhaul (tightening the foot of the mainsail). You can also adjust the rake of the mast by tightening the forestry and loosening the backstay.
Since your son is getting a new sail he should mention the weather helm problem to the sail maker and the sail maker can take that into consideration.
Personally I don't remember excessive weather helm being a problem so shortening the boom seems like an excessive solution. I could make quite a few adjustments just by moving weight around. If you shorten the boom you need a new sail so why not leave the boom the same size and let a sail maker adjust in the cut of the sail. I'm not a big racing sailor so some of the finer aspects of this are beyond me. Calculations in first comment may be right, I just don't remember it being that big an issue.
Sailing downwind to Hawaii I didn't even use the main sail. The self steering wind vane worked perfectly using two head sails wing on wing. Sailing home upwind from Hawaii I made excellent time with the main and jib until the wind stopped blowing. There were a few times on the return trip when I took all the sails down because I was so disgusted with sails slapping back and forth due to no wind. I only had light or no wind for 13 days; much better than a guy I met who was becalmed for 40 days from the Galapagos to the Marquesas. His trip took 70 days and nearly drove him crazy.
Steve
Not about weather helm but about sails, Mark Raine, whose Heritage "Nutty" is in Ketchikan, Alaska, made this comment when asked about sails for sails for Heritage #1:
So, we are buying sails for #1. Main and jib. Got a quote from Hong Kong that is quite attractive. Fabric: 5.18 or 6.18 oz. The main would be $590 or $625 and the jib $390 or $430. The US made ones are a probably bit more expensive but I have no quotes right now. Looking for suggestions re: 5.18 or 6.18 oz - the difference in price for the set is $100.
He says: The price difference is trivial. I would suggest heavier for the main as it will last longer and it is well supported between the mast and boom. I would get 4 battons placed. If your thinking of off shore you want triple stitching and bolt rope edges to increase the strength and resistance to tearing out. At least one DEEP reef. If you have to reef, you want it to make a difference. I sailed Nutty with the reef in and she moved quite well. If you can get a leach line sewn in that would be good feature too.
How big a jib ? Anything bigger than 85% of J length and you will be using it in lighter airs ( ie less than 12 knots so you can use the lighter weight. If you are using roller furling and want to roller reef you will need to have some one put in luff padding in the construction. If your jib is smaller tan 85% you can go with heavier weight and then consider poling it out. The Nutty actually has twin head stays and fittings on the mast to pole out 2 head sails at the same time. So I have a matched pair of smaller head sails. I'm not satisfied with the sheeting angles on the Heritage coming to the caprail. I think the boat would have sailed to wind better if the headsail sheet went to the cabin top. Next year I will be experimenting with a barber hauler arrangement. I n very light airs a quickly deployed asymmetrical spinnaker works well and looks really cool. That's usually 0.5 oz Nylon.
Despite the lack of sails I think Andy got a great deal for the boat. I was admiring the photos and wished the Nutty looked as good. I have Nutty hauled out on her trailer and I am looking at a indoor garage arrangement for 4 months so I can continue fixing leaks.
Mark
And another comment from Phil Williams from Port Townsend, WA on sails and sail cloth: Good Old Boat magazine had an article with a table showing recommended weights for sail cloth.
For sailboat lengths 16 to 20 feet, the article recommends a cloth weight of 5 oz .
For boats 21 to 26 feet the recommended sail cloth weight is 6 oz.
This is a link to the article:
I would opt for the 6.18 oz sail cloth in keeping with the Heritage 20's ability to handle heavy weather.
The editor of xxxxxx magazine contacted me a few weeks ago about writing a boat review on the Heritage 20. We agreed to wait until spring when the weather is warmer to go out sailing. He said information on the Heritage 20 website would help him write the review. I will keep you posted!
I hope that my wife and I can meet you the next time you are in Seattle and meet with other Heritage 20 sailors.
Phil
While picking up Howie Renner's Heritage in Fort Myers, Florida, we acquired this photograph made of Howie returning from sailing to his home there. It was made by his sister-in-law. It is the last photograph that was made of Howie aboard his Heritage.
to see many photographs of her exterior and interior layout and appearance. This Heritage is available and is located in Rochester, NY
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HERITAGE owners group sailboats listing
Current owner/name:
Andy Davidhazy "Heritage One"
location: Rochester, NY
email: [email protected]
Previous owners:
Howie Renner "Heritage One"
Builder
Howie Craft
Lake Oswego, OR
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- Andy Davidhazy's | Black hull
# 1
5 HP Westerbeke
Diesel | Current owner / name
West Seattle at Jim Clark Marina.
Seattle, Washington
Previous owners / names:
Ray Waldmann "Ellie"
Bellevue, WA
email:
Timothy Carman "Ellie"
email:
Steve Slivensky "Ellie"
email:
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| Blue Hull
#2
1GM10 Yanmar
| Current owner/name:
David Shusta "Adria I"
location: Arizona
email:[email protected]
Previous owners:
2nd owner unknown
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For more photos and text related to Heritage #03 click on this link:
- David Shusta's
- Capt. Davidhazy's album
| Black hull
# 3
5 HP Westerbeke
Diesel (removed)
| Current owner / name
Mark Raine "Nutty"
PO Box 6484
Ketchikan, Alaska 99901
425-269-0465
email:
Previous owner / name:
R.C. Wild purchased her
from Howie Renner and sailed
her down the coast to Mexico.
Bill Francis "Nutty"
11 Risk Road
Cathlamet, WA 98612
(360) 795-6000
Tom Suplee "Nutty II "
Bainbridge Island
Washington 98110
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- Mark Raine's | Black Hull
#4
note she has
three portholes | Current owner / name
Andrew Davidhazy "Adria"
615 Phelps Road
Honeoye Falls, NY 14472
(585) 624-7386
email:
web: andpph.com
Previous owners / name:
Nick Handy "Ran Annim"
1113 33rd Ave NE
Olympia WA 98506
(360) 352-3366 home
(360) 239-7032 cell
[email protected]
Bruce Baillie "Ran Annim"
1120 5th Avenue W
Olympia, WA 98502
Stephen Cassella "Martha"
401 Lovell Avenue SW
Bainbridge Island, WA 98110
email:
(206) 842-9991
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| White Hull
#5
3.5 HP Tohatsu or
3 HP Torqedo | Current owner / name
Mark ?? "Nutmeg "
Whidby Island, WA
Previous owner / name:
Dean Workman
3502 Lombard Avenue
Everett, WA 98201
(425) 388-5586
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| Black.Hull
#7
| Current owner / name
Christye Haase "Aeolus"
Anacortes, WA
(425) 507-5516
email:
Previous owner / name:
Fran Stephens "Aeolus"
Seattle, WA
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| Green Hull
#8
9.9 HP Mercury
| Current owner name: Kim Matthews
"Bunyip"
location: Port Townsend, WA
additional details: see album
email: [email protected]
Previous owner:s
Grant McConchie
18644 SW Kristi Way
Lake Oswego, OR 97034
(503) 639-5607 home
(503) 288-6411 office
email:
Grant McConchie sold it in
1989 and had purchased from:
Fred Abel "Moonbeam"
3017 Sommer
Hoquim, WA 98550
(alternate) 509 W. Scott
Aberdeen, WA 98520
Registration: WN-4401-W
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For more photos and text related to #9 click on this link:
- Kim Matthews album
| Dark Green Hull
# 9
1GM10 Yanmar
| Current owner / name:
Gregg and Leah McDonald
"Wild Tangent"
location: Aloha, OR
e-mail: [email protected]
phone: 503 642 2084
additional details:
owner would trade
this plus a 2nd boat for
a tug boat - read his story
above or on his album page
Previous owner:
Dave Campbell |
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on this link:
- Gregg and Leah's
| Black hull
# 10 | Current owner / name
Gary Nece "J. Caird "
9109 31st Avenue NW
Seattle, WA 98117
(206) 783-4151 home
(206) 621-0619 office
Previous owner / name:
Curtis Adams, MD
91265 Cape Arago Highway
Coos Bay, OR 97420
email:
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| Black Hull
#11
1 cyl Westerbeke
located at
Winslow Wharf
Marina,
Bainbridge
Island, WA
| Current owner / name
Michelle Anderson "Blackfin"
Seattle, WA
e-mail: [email protected]
phone
Previous owners / names:
Staton Apple "Blackfin"
Seattle, WA
e-mail: [email protected]
phone (206)-317-7778
Phil Williams "Blackfin"
Port Townsend, WA
Scott McCord "Tiny Dancer"
15011 302nd Street
Auburn, WA 98092
253) 939-8680
(253) 229-7320
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#12
1GM10 Yanmar
Moored in
Everett, WA ?
(near Nutmeg)
| Current owner / name
James Lawrence "Minka"
email:[email protected]
Previous owner / name:
Kenny Hopkins "Minka"
P.O. Box 171
Wellborn, Florida 32094
Barry Rietz "Minka"
P.O. Box 604
Sierra Vista, AZ 85636
(520) 236-3118
(520) 220-7552 cell
email:
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This album also has photographs of Minka while with Kenny Hopkin
| Black Hull #17
8 HP Evinrude
Located in: Connecticutt
| Current owner/Name
Adam S. and wife "Drummer"
Seattle, WA
Previous owner/name:
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click on this link:
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Black Hull
#??
1MD Volvo
| Current owner / name
Glen "Kamikaze"
Portland, OR
email:
Previous owner:
Glen's brother's grandfather in
law had her built in 1976
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Glen's
| Black hull #??
9 HP, one cylinder
Faryman diesel
engine
| Current owner/name:
Unknown
location: Los Angeles
seen by: Scot Copeland
additional details unknown
Previous owner: |
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Letter about location of this "find" in 2013
can be seen in General Correspondence below
| Gray hull
# ?? | Current owner / name:
Andr!s Fxz "Sexy II"
additional details:
This sailboat was designed by Capt. Davidhazy as Adria (possibly not to compete with the ones Howie Renner built) but while not strictly a Heritage is included here because she is certainly a close cousin!
Previous owners:
(builder) in
Hungary build date not known
2nd Dr. Major Tam!s sr.
3rd Dr. Major Tam!s jr.
4th Lajos T th
e-mail: [email protected]
to see his photos click on this link: - Lajos Toth's
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- Fxz Andr!s's
Note that this sailboat is currently being extensively renovated by Andr!s. | White hull # 20 ?
Yamaha 5hp
outboard
actually this was
built by
Cs}pli and not
Howie Renner
the number 20 was assigned just to have
a number on her.
| Nicholas Ames
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[email protected]
| past owners
Ray Waldmann
Timothy Carman
Steve Cassella
Barry Rietz
Curtis Adams
Nick Handy
Grant McConchie
Phil Williams
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| LATEST KNOWN OR CURRENT
OWNER | PREVIOUS
OWNER(S) | SAILBOAT
NAME / LOCATION | HULL COLOR / #
POWER | Fred Nammacher
Bellevue Moored at Kingston
(behind restaurant)
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Moonbeam
Registration:
WN-4401-W
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| Mary Ashby-Morrison
Seattle, WA
Moored Shilshole Bay Marina |
| Drummer | Black Hull #___ |
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(541) 888-4059
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Registration:
OR-882-JH | Black Hull #____ |  Review of Heritage 20Basic specs.. The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all. The boat is equipped with 57.0 liter fresh water capacity. The Heritage 20 is equipped with a masthead rig. The advantage of a masthead rig is its simplicity and the fact that a given sail area - compared with a fractional rig - can be carried lower and thus with less heeling moment. The Heritage 20 is equipped with a long keel. A full keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space. The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.84 - 0.94 meter (2.76 - 3.06 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below. Sailing characteristicsThis section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats. What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)? The capsize screening value for Heritage 20 is 1.74, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races. What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed? The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 5.2 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed. The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Heritage 20 is about 60 kg/cm, alternatively 339 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 60 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 339 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch. Sailing statisticsThis section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points. What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)? What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)? What is a Ballast Ratio? What is Displacement Length Ratio? SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 17.30 MaintenanceWhen buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 10m 2 (107 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need. If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful. | Usage | Length | Diameter | | Jib sheet | 6.1 m | (20.0 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) | | Genoa sheet | 6.1 m | (20.0 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) | | Mainsheet | 15.2 m | (50.0 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) | | Spinnaker sheet | 13.4 m | (44.0 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) | This section is reserved boat owner's modifications, improvements, etc. Here you might find (or contribute with) inspiration for your boat. Do you have changes/improvements you would like to share? Upload a photo and describe what you have done. We are always looking for new photos. If you can contribute with photos for Heritage 20 it would be a great help. If you have any comments to the review, improvement suggestions, or the like, feel free to contact us . Criticism helps us to improve. Heritage 20The heritage 20 is a 20.0ft masthead sloop designed by andrew davidhazy and built in fiberglass between 1967 and 1971., 12 units have been built.. The Heritage 20 is a very heavy sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser. The fuel capacity is originally very small. There is a very short water supply range.  Heritage 20 for sale elsewhere on the web: Main features | Model | Heritage 20 | | | | Length | 20 ft | | | | Beam | 6.50 ft | | | | Draft | 2.75 ft | | | | Country | | | ?? | | Estimated price | $ 0 | | ?? | Login or register to personnalize this screen. You will be able to pin external links of your choice.  See how Sailboatlab works in video | Sail area / displ. | 17.37 | | | | Ballast / displ. | 36.36 % | | | | Displ. / length | 436.51 | | | | Comfort ratio | 25.52 | | | | Capsize | 1.75 | | | | Hull type | Monohull long keel | | | | Construction | Fiberglass | | | | Waterline length | 15 ft | | | | Maximum draft | 2.75 ft | | | | Displacement | 3300 lbs | | | | Ballast | 1200 lbs | | | | Hull speed | 5.19 knots | | |  We help you build your own hydraulic steering system - Lecomble & Schmitt | Rigging | Masthead Sloop | | | | Sail area (100%) | 240 sq.ft | | | | Air draft | 31 ft | | | | Sail area fore | 0 sq.ft | | ?? | | Sail area main | 0 sq.ft | | ?? | | I | 0 ft | | ?? | | J | 0 ft | | ?? | | P | 0 ft | | ?? | | E | 0 ft | | ?? | | Nb engines | 1 | | | | Total power | 0 HP | | | | Fuel capacity | 15 gals | | | Accommodations | Water capacity | 15 gals | | | | Headroom | 0 ft | | | | Nb of cabins | 0 | | | | Nb of berths | 0 | | | | Nb heads | 0 | | | Builder data | Builder | | | ?? | | Designer | Andrew Davidhazy | | | | First built | 1967 | | | | Last built | 1971 | | | | Number built | 12 | | | Modal TitleThe content of your modal. Personalize your sailboat data sheet Paste a link here: Give it a title: And eventually a link to an image for the thumbnail: Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. Sign in to save them permanently, access them on any device, and receive relevant alerts.  1966 Howie Craft Heritage 20Seller's DescriptionBlue water capable 20 ft sloop. Designed by my grandfather, Capt. Andrew Davidhazy, about 18 were made by Howie Renner of Lake Oswego, OR in 1966. This was his first Heritage and is made to superior standards. Several of these sailed to Hawaii from the west coast. One of them single handed from Seattle. The inboard engine is old but was working. The mast/boom are sitka spruce. Dinghy included. A 3.5 Tohatsu included. Trailer is also included. While there are sails a new set would be nice. She is now in storage in Rochester, NY. Check out further details at my website: www.davidhazy.com/heritage/ and Email me at [email protected] with any questions. Equipment: stove, sink, head Rig and SailsAuxilary power, accomodations, calculations. The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more. Classic hull speed formula: Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL Sail Area / Displacement RatioA measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more. SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3 - SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement RatioA measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize. Ballast / Displacement * 100 Displacement / Length RatioA measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ - D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort RatioThis ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 ) - D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening FormulaThis formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more. CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64) This listing is presented by SailboatListings.com . Visit their website for more information or to contact the seller. View on SailboatListings.com Embed this page on your own website by copying and pasting this code. ©2024 Sea Time Tech, LLC This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. |
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