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  • Surveying Wood Hulls

by David H. Pascoe, Marine Surveyor

Now that I have roundly criticized the Coast Guard for their role in the EL TORO II tragedy, it's only fair that I should offer some effective solutions on how to prevent these casualties in the future. I fully recognize that it is easier to be critical than to solve the problems being criticized. Yet, in the EL TORO II tragedy, a wooden vessel which sank and killed three people because of wasted hull fasteners, the NTSB and the Coast Guard blamed a lack of "adequate guidance" for the CG's failure to locate these faulty conditions on EL TORO .

  • PART 1: Materials and Causes of Problems (with 4 pictures)
  • PART 2:  How to Survey A Wood Hull
  • PART 3: Appendix
  • Introduction

This essay proposes to fill the alleged gap by offering a general discussion of how to approach the survey of a wood hulled vessel. In addition, I would recommend a thorough study of WOOD: A Manual for its Use As a Shipbuilding Material, Department of the Navy, 1957, ISBN 0961060204, and Ian Nicholson's Surveying Small Craft, Sheridan House, 1987. 

I also recognize that in this day and age when very few wooden boats are being built, and most have gone the way of buggy whips, there's not much opportunity to gain experience in wood vessel survey. Yet the overriding feature of the surveyor's art is just that: experience. And since the Coast Guard is reported to survey over 1400 wood vessels annually, certainly no one has a better opportunity to gain that experience rapidly and amass a large body of comparative data rapidly. 

As their own studies and data has shown, the U.S. wooden boat fleet is aging and deteriorating. Because of that, the of accidents like EL TORO are likely to increase unless the CG does not only a better job of surveying them, but also of mandating repairs or condemning them once structural deterioration has reached the point of no return.

Let start with the point that most independent surveyors I know are no longer in the business of performing prepurchase surveys on wooden boats and the reason is simple. Surveyors have learned the hard way that surveying wood boats is very difficult and fraught with risks. As private individuals, marine surveyors cannot fall back on lame excuses such as not having adequate guidance, or not finding any evidence or being inhibited in one way or another at locating serious safety defects. The civil courts charge us with the utmost degree of care in conducting that survey, and we are held accountable when we fail, an accounting that more often than not destroys our careers. 

This is not to say that serious structural defects cannot be found with relative ease if one knows what he's looking for. In my 30 years experience with wooden vessels, it's a maxim that structural problems always manifest telltale signs. The difficulty is that the inspector must be expert, and must have a great deal of experience in knowing what to look for in order to find them. 

It should be recognized that the following discussion covers only the most basic aspects of wood hull surveying. It would require an entire book or series of books to address the subject in its entirely. ( NEXT ) 

  • PART 1: Materials and Causes of Problems  (with 4 pictures) Materials: Wood - Metals, Corrosion: Electrolysis - Galvanism - Stray Current - Oxygen Starvation, Other Factors: Climate - Hull Stress - Wood and Water
  • PART 2:  How to Survey A Wood Hull Opening Up - Planks & Frames - Weepage - Chine Areas - Forefoot - Transom - Keel,  Bolts, Keelson, Clamps and Stringers - Inaccessible Areas - Fuel & Water Tanks - The Exterior - The Bottom Survey - Steel Fasteners - Screw Fastened Vessels - Acceptable Degree of Wastage  - Summary of Structural Strength
  • PART 3: Appendix [A] Hull Planking Types [B]Recommendations for Safety Equipment and Systems

First posted 5/25/97 at David Pascoe's site www.yachtsurvey.com . Page design changed for this site. 

About Author: David H. Pascoe is a marine surveyor (1947-2018) with 40 years' experience.

He is author and publisher of power boat books:

" Mid Size Power Boats " " Surveying Fiberglass Power Boats " 2E " Buyers' Guide to Outboard Boats " " Marine Investigations "

Visit  yachtsurvey.com   for more than 180 online articles.

David Pascoe's biography

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  • Introduction to Boat Reviews

by David Pascoe

Our boat reviews are unlike any others you'll find on the Internet. They are not marketing gimmicks nor intended to sell you a boat. The primary reason we write these reviews is educational.

Many people are disappointed that they can't search the Internet and find reviews of the boats they are interested in. First, you need to understand that over the years there are thousands of builders building tens of thousands of different models of boats. This means that it's impossible for even a large corporation to cover them all, yet alone a small fraction of them.

Evaluating a boat is terribly time consuming and the only reason we are able to do it is through our normal survey business which makes these boats available to us.

We do not publish the results of surveys. While our reviews are often derived from surveys, they are not surveys. Boat surveys do not contain opinions; surveys are about facts. A review essentially constitutes the opinion of the reviewer. We are often accused of being opinionated, but that's what reviews are all about. Opinions.  People sometimes ask, "Why aren't your reviews more balanced?" Or they say, "Why are you always comparing every boat to top of the line boats like Hatteras, Bertram, etc.?"

The answer is that it makes more sense to compare with the best than with the worst. Sure, that makes it look like we're setting too high a standard when most people can't afford top of the line products, and it makes us look like we're thumbing our noses at lesser creations. We understand that the "average" boat owner can't afford the best, but neither can he afford something that's so poorly made that his large investment ends up going down the drain. That happens far too often, so it is the purpose of these reviews to assist buyers, especially newbies, to make better informed purchase decisions.

People also ask, "Why don't you review more small boats?" The answer is simple: most people buy small boats without surveys, so we rarely get to see them.

There is a common theme to all of these reviews, which is to help educate the reader on issues of quality and performance.  That can only happen if you take the time to read a variety of reviews, regardless of whether the particular boats fall in your category or not. The discussions contained in these reviews are all about what is right and wrong, from the standpoint of an expert.

You'll find everything from what makes for a lousy (or good) flying bridge layout, to what makes for a good sea boat, or what constitutes a maintenance nightmare versus a boat that is easy to maintain.

Finally, be aware that many builders turn out a large array of models over a long period of time. One of the hallmarks of the boat building industry is the lack of consistency through a product line. That means that a review of one particular model does not necessarily represent that builder's total output, either now or in the past. Builder that turn out perfection today may end up turning out junk tomorrow, and vice versa. Those that have developed reputations for quality have only done so through relatively consistent output. Yet even the best of them have turned out their share of turkeys.

When reading these reviews, please exercise this kind of discretion. And while we recognize that it's not easy, there really isn't any other way. There are huge numbers of choices out there. We can only hope that in some small way we can help you to narrow them down to a reasonable few.

Last updated March 20, 2000

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David Pascoe - Biography

David Pascoe is a second generation marine surveyor in his family who began his surveying career at age 16 as an apprentice in 1965 as the era of wooden boats was drawing to a close.

Certified by the National Association of Marine Surveyors in 1972, he has conducted over 5,000 pre purchase surveys in addition to having conducted hundreds of boating accident investigations, including fires, sinkings, hull failures and machinery failure analysis.

Over forty years of knowledge and experience are brought to bear in following books. David Pascoe is the author of:

  • " Mid Size Power Boats " (2003)
  • " Buyers’ Guide to Outboard Boats " (2002)
  • " Surveying Fiberglass Power Boats " (2001, 2nd Edition - 2005)
  • " Marine Investigations " (2004).

In addition to readers in the United States, boaters and boat industry professionals worldwide from nearly 80 countries have purchased David Pascoe's books, since introduction of his first book in 2001.

In 2012, David Pascoe has retired from marine surveying business at age 65.

On November 23rd, 2018, David Pascoe has passed away at age 71.

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  • Hatteras 38 Convertible - Updated Review
  • Hatteras 39 Sport Express
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  • Hatteras 61 Motor Yacht
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  • Surveying the Hull
  • Using Moisture Meters
  • Stress Cracks & Surface Irregularities
  • Deck & Superstructure
  • Drive Train
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